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Single File (mod)	Thu 25 Nov 2010 20:16
<Dave> (SPOILER) No computer generated solutions here, so may not be optimal yet.
testing comments...	Thu 25 Nov 2010 17:00
<Dave> '''""" They are working again! I play on three different machines and when it works it works on all three and when it fails it fails on all three. ??
Botkoban 2	Thu 25 Nov 2010 16:52
<Dave> (SPOILER) Hats off to anyone who solved this by hand. I have to confess that I gave up and solved it by computer having tested the program out on Botkoban 3 first. As an optimisation exercise I found it nowhere near as difficult as Revenge 5 which took about 3 hours of runtime rather than a few seconds. In both cases I did use a hash table to record visited positions with minimum step count. You could get probably away without it here as there were just over 1000 entries when I re-ran it with a 71 move limit imposed. That would still require quite a lot of paper if working this out by hand! I may try it by hand using noname's tip but that's for another day when I have a lot of time on my hands...
testing comments...	Thu 25 Nov 2010 16:34
<N7DOT 3> Just testin' seeing if it will work, timeto see is Dave's right about this "problem".
Botkoban 3	Wed 24 Nov 2010 23:08
<Dave> (SPOILER) Solved by computer. With my programming skills it would probably have been quicker the long way! No idea if 29 is really optimal as the program terminated on the first solution found (identical to the speedrun by Adam). Toms original is different from move 3 but converges to the same ending, so I suspect there may be more.
Five Bots for Seven Buttons	Tue 23 Nov 2010 11:39
<wowei> To become a famous philosopher conjugation is an unnecessary skill. (Confuzius too). Typically there are a lot of wise guys, who are quoting a wise man. :-D I hope you two are haveing fun conjugating my nick, but pay attention to pronounce it right! :-p ;) <Dave> (SPOILER) I think Confucius once said: If it can be woweied, it can usually be unwoweied. Unwoweiing is fun but conjugation is difficult. <mm> A great woweied speedrun! ;-)
ficelle	Mon 22 Nov 2010 16:23
<radiant> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 312 moves (old: 423). The bombs are so tempting...
Portal 17	Mon 22 Nov 2010 15:23
<N7DOT 3> I liked the level. I got Silver!!!
ficelle petite	Mon 22 Nov 2010 13:51
<Dave> (SPOILER) (note: speedrun of 367 moves didn't break record; not added) This is a nice little level, wowei. Would love to play some more but I have to go to work.
Five Bots for Seven Buttons	Mon 22 Nov 2010 10:24
<wowei> thanks Dave, i'd be glad to doom (your) speedrun(s) in future ;). - Nah, i really think, i's lucky only and it probably is not optimla and may not last for long. But what I'm really glad about is, that i was able to solve it at all. it's a wonderfull puzzle. <Dave> (SPOILER) Oh, the inevitability of it all! My ever-doomed little speedrun has been totally woweied. Very nice job. <wowei> Nay, Your Highness, I'd never dare to blame Your Majesty on inventing or creating traps - NEVER! (... only placing them there ... ;) It seems to me that this version of the puzzle is the slickest one so far. Apparently it makes use of all of the elements included. I didn't solve it yet, but at least I have an idea of what is to be done in which order. only i need to prepare and coordinate things a bit more carefully. great puzzle!
Control Boxy'd	Sat 20 Nov 2010 23:07
<noname> (SPOILER) This is also Ctrl-0'ed.
Suffocation room	Sat 20 Nov 2010 23:02
<noname> (SPOILER) Thank goodness I'm able to Ctrl-0 this nonsense. <N7DOT 2> Nobody's beaten this yet... hmmm... This is my second 4x4 'hard' level.
Five Bots for Seven Buttons	Sat 20 Nov 2010 18:40
<mm> (SPOILER) Dearest Wowei! Please don't blame me. I did neither invent nor create that trap.
In the Jungle, The Mighty Jungle...	Sat 20 Nov 2010 16:42
<Dave> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 109 moves (old: 129). Enough for now. Probably quite a way from optimal yet.
Five Bots for Seven Buttons	Sat 20 Nov 2010 10:02
<wowei> (SPOILER) Hey, that's not nice. Looks wonderful but it really is not nice at all to put the trapdoor there! I mean, I haven't solved it yet. ;) I like Dave's concept also, and the 7-bots levels are great too.
Cheating Death In A Slightly More Dire Position	Fri 19 Nov 2010 01:05
<G Anthony Ne> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 16 moves (old: 20). yea I spent 3 days in ICU~~~~ <N7DOT 3> I guess this cooks the original. Please do not post the solution on the old version, or this will get ruined.
Control Boxy	Thu 18 Nov 2010 19:52
<N7DOT 3> not right now, though. I don't have TOO much time. <N7DOT 3> durn, i thought that would happen. Better trap those guys so you have to fish 'em out! <radiant> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 18 moves (old: 69). It seems like bots 1-9 are taking up space for a mechanism that a single bot could perform just as well.
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