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<Dave> Hi Mark, I think you should leave this up for now. There will be another even tougher mod... |
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<N7DOT 3> 'modify me' uploaded by N7DOT 3: Well, it's been a week and nobody objected, so here's another modification level. The Rules are the same as We are the mods for the most part, but there are a few minor additions: -To make branches off branches less difficult to work with, instead of modify me 3a, modify me 3b, modify me 3c, etc. for one branch, have it be modify me 3a, modify me 4a, modify me 5a, etc. When a new branch is added just change the letter. It may seem odd, but the current designations there are getting really complicated, so this might work better? -No remotes allowed. Panels are fine. We are the mods is level 3380 incase you don't know about it. |
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<mark> (SPOILER) Had another look i know what your on about its actually easier that way. The thing is i dont always spot the easiest route when solving. I will leave it alone or else it might give to much away. The solution with this level is just a cleaned up version of the way i did 12e2. Might catch you one day,(i doubt it). <Dave> (SPOILER) Hi Mark. There is an alterative 12e2 method (just another variation on the same basic theme) which works here too. Unfortunately, I don't see any way of forcing without giving too much away. |
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<Dave> I don't think any of these levels should be deleted permanently, simply because it is fair that any future players can run through the levels in order of development, just as we are. I guess in an ideal world levels deleted because they are flawed (and therefore possibly spoilers) or ill-conceived would be separated from levels deleted because they have been out-evolved. I'll vote for another folder. <mm> Teamwork is fun! But I'm wondering if Tom7 really really will love our way to "overpopulate" the normal graveyard? If ever we will continue to team-work on new great levels - and I guess we will - we might ask Tom7 to introduce a new folder, some kind of a special "common teamwork" kind of graveyard? I am aware of the fact that Tom7 loves to keep each and every level that ever had been elaborated, but teamwork seems to be a new kind of creating levels, so maybe this special thing will need some special "graveyard"-folder-solution? I imagine some kind of a graveyard that expires after a certain time, let's say after 10 days or after a month or so? <mm> ...yet! <mm> 'We are the mods 12b.1' uploaded by mm: I've got no clue if this will add anything to the general discussion as I haven't solved the e and f et alteri levels. |
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<mark> Moved to graveyard: A distant memory! |
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<mark> 'We are the mods 12e3' uploaded by mark: Same great puzzle,just a little bit trickier. |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Added solution "Neat and tidy." <Dave> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 131 moves (old: 145). |
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<Jim> Moved to graveyard: No longer needed. |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 145 moves (old: 149). Not as tidy but a bit faster. <Dave> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 149 moves (old: 153). |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Hi Mark, If the rating is too high it will get adjusted down anyway. These days, if a level seems between 8 and 9, I tend to rate 9 and let nature take its course. |
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<mm> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 412 moves (old: 450). |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 153 moves (old: 179). |
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<mark> Dave this level is genius,in more than one way. 1st it has nearly named itself , We are the mods emc2. 2nd once i finally solved it i had more satisfaction than any other level. Want to give it a 10 i have scored 3 other levels 10 and this is defintely harder. Do you think 10 is to much? Ps i did it a lot differently to you but the net result was the same. close to 3000 moves first solve.Thanks great puzzle. |
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<mm> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 179 moves (old: 213). <Garygoh884> 'Bombs First' uploaded by Garygoh884. |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Hi Jim, I agree that 12f doesn't force you (I mustn't say too say too much, walls have ears, but you will know exactly what I mean) to obtain all your resources in the most efficient manner. However, even with the aforementioned spare bit, I haven't managed to find a different solution method... that's why I like it: It's teasing me to cook it and haven't been able to yet. If you, I, or anybody does, the goalposts move. This one is designed to force better use of resources, I await your speedrun/mod to find out if it actually, for once, forced the intended solution. Nice to have you on board, in and light of your comments: Lets keep going for now. <Jim> I've enjoyed doing them all, each one has been a new challenge. Let's not rule out this version as the other one we keep, so far I haven't figured out the solution. The ony detriment to keeping 12f is that I had a leftover piece at the end, I like the solutions that use all of them. AS for the other thread, I actually like 11 and 12 (which was deleted) more than the ones after them. I was stumped on 12 for 3 days, it was disguised well and the later versions I thought were more obvious. <Dave> We do seem to be stuck in a bit of a rut here. Maybe it's time for a major revamp or a new template... any thoughts? 12a and 12f are the keepers so far. |
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<Dave> That's the second request. So, as a result of this massive wave of public opinion, this one stays. |
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