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<Tom 7> Oops! Thanks.. I fixed that blunder. <Tom 7> (admin) Moved to graveyard. |
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<Tom 7> 'Do Exits Dream of Electric Daleks? (v2)' uploaded by Tom. |
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<Joshua Bone> Actually, I think this is a cook... <Tom 7> 'Do Exits Dream of Electric Daleks?' uploaded by Tom. |
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<jcreed> 'Love is All Around' uploaded by jcreed. |
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<Tom 7> Huh, I'm surprised it wasn't fairly obvious, but maybe that is just my Lolo background. ;) I wanted to do it in one level, but the problem with things that affect exits is that you only get one chance to do something before the level is exitable! I'm interested in thoughts from others... <Max> Wow, cool tiles. This tutorial is a good early challenge with them, but it doesn't really do a good job explaining quickly what they do. Maybe this should be preceded by a part 1 where there are only sleeping exits and hearts and no other variables... <Tom 7> Adventures of Lolo fans should recognize this one. <Tom 7> (admin) Moved to official/tutorial. <Tom 7> 'Tutorial 18: Heart Framers' uploaded by Tom. |
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<mjn> Whoops, forgot to mention: Tom, would you please delete this old version? |
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<Max> I think this is my favorite version of this one... |
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<Tom 7> Well, it would suggest at least that people haven't been sued for it, which is good. I should be able to at least safely have them up on the website, if not as part of the GPL'd Escape. Unlike trademarks, copyright protection doesn't expire merely from lack of enforcement, even for 25 years. 25 years is also way too short for the copyright to expire on its own--that's something like 100 years, now. (This is assuming that sokoban levels can be copyrighted, which I believe they can.) I wish the world were such that I didn't have to be a hardass about copyright stuff, but alas, it is. Anyway, part of the point of Escape is to create a game that everyone can play (and copy) without worrying about this kind of thing, so let's do it by making new levels. Thanks! <nushae> Well... the existence of numerous shareare and freeware games that include the original levels would suggest so, wouldn't it? Besides, any company still owning the rights to these levels and trying to excercise them, will have to explain why they haven't done so for well over 25 years now. Under such circumstances it becomes "pretty hard" (that's a legal term, ahem) to make a case... But as I said, I won't upload anything not by me ;) <Tom 7> I don't believe the original Sokoban levels are in the public domain; are they? |
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<Tom 7> I like Sokoban levels, and I'm happy to have more of 'em. (If you think there are too many new tiles, feel free to make interesting levels with whatever subset you choose! I think the fascination with bots is because they are only a few months old at this point.) The only problem with levels that are copied off the web is with licensing; I'm trying to be careful not to have any copyright violations. Even if the levels are "freely available," that doesn't mean I can just include them in a GPL project. Since Yoshio levels are good, I am going to include them in a web collection (but not with the original installer) so that players can download them. But if I get any complaints from the author, I'll have to remove them. |
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<Joshua Bone> I think this is my favorite Escape level yet! Very nice puzzle. <mjn> 'Stress Fracture' uploaded by mjn. |
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<nushae> So I solve the Carrier block part... walk up to the teleport... move left... get zapped. Great. Two days later I try again. Walk up to the teleport... what way did I go last time? Let's try walking left... DOH. |
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<nushae> Ok this is the last of the handmade levels by Yoshio murase that i will upload. I just found the comments attached to autogenerated 52 by accident and will use the comment option more now that I know what it does :) You could say I'm a sokoban purist. Levels I upload will be sokoban style. I would suggest making an extra category for "pure sokoban" levels... Escape did evolve from it after all, so a homage folder wouldn't be too bad. I was in the process of entering all the original sokoban levels; please let me know if that is also a nono - I do feel they shouldbe part of escape. |
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<nushae> My apologies; I was not aware I was only to upload my own work. The Yoshio Murase levels are readily available from a plethora of sources. Since I also credited the author I saw no problem with it. Thing is... Escape may have just a little too many different tile-types. Also, about 99% of all escape levels are some sort of hugbot thing. It's like ppl are totally in love with em. For these two reasons I felt the game could use some good sokoban levels. The Yoshio sets are probably the best around. One thing that I did find annoying (and the cause of the missing autogenerated levels) is that I could not make a "box" start on top of a switch... I'll see if I can dig up my own levels from way back when. I will refrain from uploading additional Yoshio levels. |
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<nushae> 'Handmade 037' uploaded by nushae. |
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<jcreed> 'Who Let The Hugbot Out?' uploaded by jcreed. |
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<Joshua Bone> Very nice solution! It is fun to see the different ways people solve this. It has proven to be much looser than I originally thought it to be. |
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