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<Dave> Devin, love the Square Slots idea, I just haven't yet come up with anything original to add that will do it justice. I vote for keeping the rooms independent as intended and this , this is a series that should and will evolve slowly. |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Was in a hurry earlier: I should add that it did take a while to crack the ending even after ... er, spotting something important. Very nicely thought out, mark. |
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<mark> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 328 moves (old: 334). Slightly different ending. <Jim> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 334 moves (old: 506). This took me a long time to do, there was a very tricky move toward the end which I kept missing. |
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<mark> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 337 moves (old: 342). I like your sneaky solution Jim...I feel like there must be another block to go. |
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<mark> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 284 moves (old: 323). A litle bit of a teaser before the mod comes... It turns out this can be made a bit better I think you will like it N7. |
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<Jim> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 583 moves (old: 861). Great fun Mark, here is at least one different way. |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Mark, ratings were indeed much harsher then. As a consequence, Minor Leagues was kept well sated. A lot of demoted levels were much harder than many of the older surviving levels in triage, an issue I raised several times because it was discouraging for new players: d=0, s=0 was not uncommon. Jim, it's simply because I used to play on several computers. Hopefully, I have still back-up .esp files somewhere. Merging them looks a pretty simple task, but not tonight. Not even going to bother with ctrl-0, it takes forever and only grabs the default solution. Cleared another 10 or so today, going well until I hit a wall in the Improv5 series. |
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<mark> (SPOILER) Scores must have been a bit mean back in 2010 only 2.5 for style and 4.25 for difficulty. Only showing four previous solvers in 4 years tells me it not that easy. I've played this level numerous occasions only to give up,well not today another one down. |
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<Jim> (SPOILER) No, never did solve Land of 10000 Bots, that one just doesn't interest me for some reason. As for Chaotic Assembly, all I will say at this point is my solution is definitely different. I'm contemplating making a mod to force my way, but I'm undecided whether anyone would want one. That's kinda funny for sure that your "unsolved ones" include levels you have speedruns on, your upcoming embedded level you are working on already sounds scary. <Dave> (SPOILER) Jim, I suspect a mod is coming.... that's a worry... Did you ever solve 'Land of 10000 Bots'? When I had my triage unsolved count down to 2 (only a year ago but it seems forever now) that one was the thorn that wouldn't go away. I still have a backlog to deal with. Funny thing is some of my 'unsolved' levels I have speedruns on, and one of them is mine. Probably time I wrote an ap to merge my player files... About a week ago I finally got an embedded level idea I started on 2 years ago to actually work. Turning into a classic puzzle will take time, which is why I'm not playing mods at the moment. |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Nope, I solved it Gary's way. I really couldn't see any other viable approach: logically, to me, it seemed the only way. I'm actually quite surprised you found an alternative, and I'm now really curious... Did you manage go the other way with the bombs, or am I completely off track? <Jim> (SPOILER) I finally solved this one, took me forever. I'm curious Dave, did u solve it the same way as Gary or differently? I found another way. |
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<Jim> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 184 moves (old: 266). Nice variation. |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 79 moves (old: 104). I don't think you need to prove anything. :) |
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<mark> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 826 moves (old: 958). Shaved at bit off Dave's run. Extra style point now that I fully understand the timing aspect. Great level once again. <Garygoh884> (SPOILER) By uploading this level it shows a fix from my possible cooked level (by mark), as per Dave's recommendation. Dave: Should I decide to reupload for fixing, the style rating may, or may not differ from previous. I'm not giving away bad senses of integrity to others, however I should've listened to you. I should only upload levels that are difficult to cook in just my first attempt. mark: I realized that a cook could open a window of opportunity to you in hopes of getting my method of solving. Cooked levels gives you an idea of how my level should be normally solved, and that would easily solved for fixed levels, even for minor tweaks. |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Gary, In case you haven't seen Mark's short cut, I'm uploading a quick-fix of Rewired Insanity while the speedrun on the original shows an uncooked solution. Gary, if you'd prefer to keep the original, let me know and I'll delete mine. |
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<Dave> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 836 moves (old: 849). Much closer to the original, I completely failed to spot the cook Mark used. This is a great level and well worth solving the proper way... the middle room design is evil (took me ages to crack it - brilliant). I really recommend you fix and re-upload this Gary. |
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<Jim> (SPOILER) I did this much like Dave did, just not as efficiently. |
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<mark> (SPOILER) Great level Gary .Spent a few frustrated hours on this it was all a bit catch 22 for a while. Speedrun could be improved no time left now. |
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<mark> (SPOILER) Nice run Dave I like your style gives nothing away.Well I've had a new look at this level speedrun is now 43.(spoiler alert) Made another fun mod instead of speedrun again. |
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<Jim> (SPOILER) Nice solve Mark. <mark> (SPOILER) Added solution "mark's way": Decided to give this another go today. A cleaned up version of my first solve 2848. Totally differernt way to the other two solutions. Great fun level even if cooked a little. |
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<Jim> (SPOILER) Oh wow, I can't believe I never noticed that and I'm actually glad I didn't. I had great fun with that level. I played around with it quite a bit the last 2 days, I'm pretty sure that is the only way it could be solved. |
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