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<Dave> It seems the bombs have gone ballistic already. The main thread will be interesting. PS. noname. If I was forced to solve 7A the intended way, which at first sight seemed the only logical method, I would have rated difficulty much higher. Please leave this up until for a little while because it is a very elegant solution. |
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<Dave> Moved to graveyard: Moce! |
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<Dave> Nice alternative. I actually started trying to solve this looking for a solution using your method, but then spotted something else. |
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<Dave> 'Various Models 7B (Bomb, try again)' uploaded by Dave. |
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<noname> 'Various Models 7A (bomb try)' uploaded by noname: This was my idea for the bomb, but it no longer works after VM8. Given the recent trial levels, I may as well share this idea. |
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<Dave> Fun little challenge Mark! <Dave> Bottom 90, Top 117 <Dave> Had another go and improved on bottom score. Bottom 90, Top 129. <Dave> Hi Mark. Had a quick play with your idea of unlocking the VM7 bomb. Beat you to the top with 129 but haven't got the bottom solution below 114 yet. It is clear we are attacking this problem very differently. I Will keep trying. Renamed Level 2 was one of my very very early solves (28 Oct 09 - 1092 moves!), long before I knew of the existence of speedruns let alone beating them. I went back through and redid most of the levels in 2011, hence I have a lot of speedruns from that period, many of which I imagine are beatable. There's a lot to be said for experience. I wonder if the 2011 Dave would have beaten your run in 10 minutes... I don't think so. Kirima, if you start playing with bombs, you make joining the party irresistable!!! :) |
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<Dave> 'Various Models 8C (Bomb try-out 2)' uploaded by Dave: You've started something now! Alternative solution for 8B... |
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<mm> 'Various Models 8 B for bomb example' uploaded by mm: I've been exploring the bomb possibilities as well, just for fun, I had to find out if there are possibilities that won't turn out in total desasters. I'll delete this very soon as I am breaking my own rules and as this is not supposed to be part of the game, but I thought you might like to see it anyway?! I certainly won't make the 11th, I really think someone else should launch that bomb! ;) |
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<mark> Pps it took me more than 30 mins to do last post as VM8 was not there before i started. <mark> Ha ha,nice one Dave you reclaimed your speedrun.The funny thing is I only solved that level yesterday. After solving any level i always watch the other solutions and i stole it from you anyway you left an easy 6 at the end. It took me about 10 mins of checking to see where you even got the 2 back from. For some reason i must have thought this level was harder than it actually is,it only took 5 mins to solve,but when i first played ages ago i left it all in a muddle.(just goes to show how much you can learn at this game) I remember bumping into this level in the comments section because of the bad language title it had. Thats the first time i got the deleted level directory so i could look at it.(lev914). Fair play to you mm you gave him a bit of a roasting back in 2005,your comment was very funny. Anyhow talking off speedruns and the bomb in VM series, just for fun i'd edited the bomb back in 7 to see what could be done. To bottom exit i managed a 98 and top exit a 155 and it was quite a bit of fun to do,can anyone top these scores. Its nice to see you back again Kirima after your little break and once again another nice speedrun. I had just finished VM7 and was checking to see if any other mods where out when i clocked your speedrun 5,I had got smaller solutions in the bank and was very tempted to redo 7 without red panel to test Dave and Jim.In the end i thought that would be unfair. Ps i think its nearly as good to have owned the speedrun for a while as it is owning it out right,at least you get your name up and they don't take that away from you. I don't know how many speedruns i've stolen by shaving bits out of them , But at a guess this must be how most of them come about. It would be nice if all the speedruns were saved so i could see the beaten one's as well. Pps i remember reading a comment from Jim some time ago,don't remember what level that he felt he owed Tom7 loads of money for all the free entertainment he'd had. I really know what he meant by that now and thank Tom7 so much. |
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<mm> 'Various Models 8' uploaded by mm: Trying to make this tighter, I've erased some tiles that seemed obsolete, hope this is o.k. for you?! |
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<Dave> Moved to graveyard: Haere ra |
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<Dave> Moved to graveyard: Dyw genes |
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<Dave> Hi M. Welcome back, I was wondering when you would show up again. All the mods on VM have been by Mark (odds) or myself (evens) so it could do with some other input. I'm in two minds about the bomb as well, it's going to have to be one very good mod unless it just ends the level with a final choatic flourish. We'll see, I may get inspired nearer the time, but no good ideas yet. PS. Mark. Sorry about the speedrun on RL2. After I saw your run pop up I decided to go back and play the level again and came in two moves quicker. There must be a couple more to be clipped off yet. |
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<mm> Very smart mod, Dave! |
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<mm> Moved to graveyard: Ciao bella |
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<mark> Moved to graveyard: Wow great solution mm, a tiny bit of a cook there. I could be mean and beat your speedrun but i'll leave it for the others to see. Shame you fell behind as that would have got me. |
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<mark> 'Various Models 7' uploaded by mark: Speeding things along a bit,can't wait to see what will happen with the bomb. I don't think i want to touch it! |
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<mark> Moved to graveyard: Nice one for 13 Jim it's getting a bit block pushy now. I wont be getting any speedruns on these levels unless i nick someone elses solution it took me 700 more and i knew how it was done. |
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<Jim> 'Just mod blocks 13' uploaded by Jim. |
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<Dave> Moved to graveyard: Hwyl fawr |
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<Dave> 'Various Models 6' uploaded by Dave: The idea wouldn't work any more. Have tried to incorporate bits of it in here, but had to break the rules and make extra changes to get anything playable. I am happy for a roll-back if requested. If this doesn't get cooked I will be very surprised, so it shouldn't be hard to mod :). |
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