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<Max> SPAM: Well of course nobody would ever prefer playing Sudoku like this to playing it on paper, but you definitely did a great job on the task of embedding a working Sudoku within the limitations (mostly size) of the level editor. I like the symbol approach, though it would have been a little easier to solve if you used four gold blocks in each given to resemble the positions the four red blocks would be in after activating the correct panels. Another option would have been to have an electricity tile adjacent to each square so you could get rid of the unnecessary red block clutter after you solve a square. Kirima: there has emerged a sort of tradition in Escape of trying to embed other games or functions as levels, regardless of their actual practicality as such. I enjoy this pasttime (I did a functional "minesweeper" embedding awhile back) and I would say they are sometimes better appreciated as Escape engineering feats (i.e. "Turing Machine") than actual levels ;) . And Tom: I like the size limit of the levels for the same reasons I like the color limit, so my vote is to keep it as is. |
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<mm> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 166 moves (old: 174). <Max> Ahh yes, thanks for the mod, good one. I can't believe the original was doubly cookable! All in all, I like Tom's the best though since it's a bit more devious (but I did solve this his way before yours for some reason)... |
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<Max> (SPOILER) Yeah this is a great mod. I must admit I was a little ashamed of my original simple solution. I came up with the mechanism first and then a series of complex almost-solutions, and I really wanted to have a complex solution like this but when I found my original solution, rather than cook-proof it I just decided to stick with it. This definitely has an "advanced" aspect that I enjoy in certain Escape levels where the whole level revolves around a single rule that the player is tricked into believing is slightly stricter than it really is... <Max> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 168 moves (old: 170). Yeahhhh |
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<Max> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 174 moves (old: 251). Whoa let me check to see if I cooked it... |
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<Tom 7> 'Third Contact' uploaded by Tom 7: Cook of last two. |
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<SPAM> (SPOILER) As I see, you solved it excactly as I did in the original. I felt so stupid when I watched Max' super-simple solution... Nice mod! <bpotetz> 'Second Contact' uploaded by bpotetz: Nice, Max. Here's a small mod for you. |
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<mjn> I've never felt limited by the board size; I think I'd vote to keep it as it is. |
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<mjn> (SPOILER) That's a pretty nifty device on the right! |
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<mm> Even if this should or could work: I still think what I think. The idea of sudoku can't be transcribed to escape, it's way too far away. WHY should we search for things that are just not at all competitive to this game? |
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<Eric119> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 83 moves (old: 85). |
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<mm> (SPOILER) I did transscribe this to normal numbers and have tried to solve it on paper - but that seems impossible. I might be too silly, or is there a problem? |
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<SPAM> 'Japanese Escape!' uploaded by SPAM: Okay, this should work. Don't know why I did that mistake. Please don't use the alternate layer! It'll be boring, and isn't that excactly the only thing a level shouldn't be? Hope you enjoy the working version! |
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<SPAM> Moved to graveyard: Oops! I'm really sorry! Guess I didn't test carefully enough. New version coming soon... |
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<Max> 'Contact' uploaded by Max. |
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<bpotetz> (SPOILER) I looked for a solution to this but didn't find one (meaning: self-contradition). It's easy enough to solve the escape level by checking the pattern of panels in bizzaro-world, so I did, and it looks like row 4 contains 2 twos. What's up with that? Anyway, it's hard to know how to rank difficulty in this sort of level, since you can read the solution off the panel colors. I chose to rank it as an escape level. <Tom 7> heee, nice. Of course, this embedding hard-codes the solution rather than checking it by some mechanism. (I wish I had a name to describe such embeddings--maybe "extrinsic"?) The particular way it's encoded makes it easy to solve by looking at the alternate layer. Nonetheless, Kudos for your courage! By the way, it's pretty clear that an "intrinsic" 9-digit su doku (with checking mechanism) would not fit in the regular board size, since even this one basically maxes it out. How do people feel about increasing the board size? Are editors running into size limitations frequently? I'm not sure what I think... <SPAM> 'Japanese Escape!' uploaded by SPAM: My desperate try to make a working 9*9 sudoku. It works, but it probably doesn't look that good and is hard to understand. Other disadvantages are that it needs a huge board and that it only works for one solution (but that's not too bad, because there's ussually only one solution ;)). The puzzle itself is self-made, not taken from any book. It shouldn't be too hard for practised sudoku solvers (maybe I'll make a hard one soon). Hope you'll enjoy it! |
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<bpotetz> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 461 moves (old: 550). |
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<bpotetz> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 85 moves (old: 204). Think I skipped some stuff. <jeff> 'Playground2' uploaded by jeff: advanced playground |
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<jeff> 'playground3' uploaded by jeff: teleporter?? |
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<Alois> (SPOILER) Added speedrun: 295 moves (old: 301). |
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