Escape Level : "Dimensional Trap 17" by Henri Kareinen (mod by Brian Potetz)

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"Dimensional Trap 17" by Henri Kareinen (mod by Brian Potetz)

added 25 Mar 2005 15:21

Solved 5/5

Cooked 0/5

Difficulty 8.60

Style 8.20

Rigidity 7.40

Shortest Solution
Name Optimal

Length 177 moves

By noname

On 28 Aug 2019 03:21

Comments (turn spoilers off)

20342 Dimensional Trap 17 noname (559) Wed 28 Aug 2019 03:21 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 177 moves (old: 183).
Optimal.

8012 Dimensional Trap 17 noname (559) Mon 04 Jun 2007 08:59 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 183 moves (old: 191).

7234 Dimensional Trap 17 wowei (685) Wed 15 Nov 2006 14:23 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 191 moves (old: 213).

6283 Dimensional Trap 17 mm (690) Thu 01 Jun 2006 13:06 SPOILER

I did it! KWM, thanks a lot for encouraging me to keep on going. This is the smallest and most evil level ever (;

6282 Dimensional Trap 17 mm (690) Thu 01 Jun 2006 08:27 SPOILER

You're right, there are no "black holes", I've realized that as well, opening the level in "editor" helped me to see the destination of each panel. (Mac!) Creating a level to better understand these "mechanisms" seems to be a good way to help to understand them - I'll keep on trying, thank's a lot for all your hints!

6280 Dimensional Trap 17 KWM (603) Wed 31 May 2006 22:45 SPOILER

There are no self-referential (black hole) panels, but approching from the wrong/right direction can make it look that way, sort of. Here's a hint: 1,11,15,17. You did number the buttons, right? I make Dimensional Rip-Off to help me understand the logic of these levels, it's much longer and more systematic.

6279 Dimensional Trap 17 mm (690) Wed 31 May 2006 20:58 SPOILER

Sorry, I know what binary code means - but I don't understand how it could help to solve this level? There are panels that do not work in a stricly logic way - I guess. And that's just very confusing.

6275 Dimensional Trap 17 mm (690) Wed 31 May 2006 19:18 SPOILER

I have absolutely no idea what a binary code could be! All I know is that there are some "tricky" panels which behave like black holes - are these the excepions? I'll find out how far I can get with only 2 or 3 blocks. (There is that other level, Dimensional Rip-Off...)

6271 Dimensional Trap 17 KWM (603) Tue 30 May 2006 21:24 SPOILER

Being familiar with binary code also came in handy. Although, there are some exeptions in this puzzle. You may want to see how far you can get by using only 2 blocks, then only 3, etc.

6270 Dimensional Trap 17 mm (690) Tue 30 May 2006 16:43 SPOILER

Thanks KWM, I can get to panel 13, but that's it.

6268 Dimensional Trap 17 KWM (603) Tue 30 May 2006 11:13 SPOILER

I found it helpfull to lable the order of the buttons. I just used a fine felt pen to mark on the computer screen.

6264 Dimensional Trap 17 mm (690) Mon 29 May 2006 21:08

WTH...???

I just can't unterstand what's going on? I can push stuff around - but sooner or later, everything will disappear...

3324 Dimensional Trap 17 bpotetz (144) Sat 02 Jul 2005 16:11 SPOILER

> A 18th panel could be added two squares above the 17th.

Yeah, true. I didn't want to add any more cheat-panels than already existed, though. Anyway, this was a fun original concept, Doom.

3323 Dimensional Trap 17 bpotetz (144) Sat 02 Jul 2005 16:09

Phew! Thanks, noname - good job. That certainly is not the hardest level ever, but I'm claiming the title for longest unsolved level, at 98 days. Who dare challenge me?

I guess maybe I should submit some new levels, now that mine are all finished. Maybe over vacation I will.

3316 Dimensional Trap 17 noname (559) Sat 02 Jul 2005 10:14 SPOILER

To Brian: A 18th panel can be added two squares above the 17th panel...

Anyway, it seems that the possibility to go beyond 15 seems to lie in the fact that some of the panels are too close to each other, like the relation of the 3rd and 4th panels. I wonder if it's possible to go beyond 15 if adjacent panels are distant enough. Of course, it's not difficult to show that with n blocks, we can have 2^^n - 1 panels.

3315 Dimensional Trap 17 noname (559) Sat 02 Jul 2005 10:09 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 213 moves (old: 999999).

743 Dimensional Trap 17 bpotetz (144) Fri 25 Mar 2005 15:23

Can anyone get farther than 17?

Comments (turn spoilers off)

20342	Dimensional Trap 17	noname (559)	Wed 28 Aug 2019 03:21	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 177 moves (old: 183). Optimal.

8012	Dimensional Trap 17	noname (559)	Mon 04 Jun 2007 08:59	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 183 moves (old: 191).

7234	Dimensional Trap 17	wowei (685)	Wed 15 Nov 2006 14:23	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 191 moves (old: 213).

6283	Dimensional Trap 17	mm (690)	Thu 01 Jun 2006 13:06	SPOILER
	I did it! KWM, thanks a lot for encouraging me to keep on going. This is the smallest and most evil level ever (;

6282	Dimensional Trap 17	mm (690)	Thu 01 Jun 2006 08:27	SPOILER
	You're right, there are no "black holes", I've realized that as well, opening the level in "editor" helped me to see the destination of each panel. (Mac!) Creating a level to better understand these "mechanisms" seems to be a good way to help to understand them - I'll keep on trying, thank's a lot for all your hints!

6280	Dimensional Trap 17	KWM (603)	Wed 31 May 2006 22:45	SPOILER
	There are no self-referential (black hole) panels, but approching from the wrong/right direction can make it look that way, sort of. Here's a hint: 1,11,15,17. You did number the buttons, right? I make Dimensional Rip-Off to help me understand the logic of these levels, it's much longer and more systematic.

6279	Dimensional Trap 17	mm (690)	Wed 31 May 2006 20:58	SPOILER
	Sorry, I know what binary code means - but I don't understand how it could help to solve this level? There are panels that do not work in a stricly logic way - I guess. And that's just very confusing.

6275	Dimensional Trap 17	mm (690)	Wed 31 May 2006 19:18	SPOILER
	I have absolutely no idea what a binary code could be! All I know is that there are some "tricky" panels which behave like black holes - are these the excepions? I'll find out how far I can get with only 2 or 3 blocks. (There is that other level, Dimensional Rip-Off...)

6271	Dimensional Trap 17	KWM (603)	Tue 30 May 2006 21:24	SPOILER
	Being familiar with binary code also came in handy. Although, there are some exeptions in this puzzle. You may want to see how far you can get by using only 2 blocks, then only 3, etc.

6270	Dimensional Trap 17	mm (690)	Tue 30 May 2006 16:43	SPOILER
	Thanks KWM, I can get to panel 13, but that's it.

6268	Dimensional Trap 17	KWM (603)	Tue 30 May 2006 11:13	SPOILER
	I found it helpfull to lable the order of the buttons. I just used a fine felt pen to mark on the computer screen.

6264	Dimensional Trap 17	mm (690)	Mon 29 May 2006 21:08
	WTH...??? I just can't unterstand what's going on? I can push stuff around - but sooner or later, everything will disappear...

3324	Dimensional Trap 17	bpotetz (144)	Sat 02 Jul 2005 16:11	SPOILER
	> A 18th panel could be added two squares above the 17th. Yeah, true. I didn't want to add any more cheat-panels than already existed, though. Anyway, this was a fun original concept, Doom.

3323	Dimensional Trap 17	bpotetz (144)	Sat 02 Jul 2005 16:09
	Phew! Thanks, noname - good job. That certainly is not the hardest level ever, but I'm claiming the title for longest unsolved level, at 98 days. Who dare challenge me? I guess maybe I should submit some new levels, now that mine are all finished. Maybe over vacation I will.

3316	Dimensional Trap 17	noname (559)	Sat 02 Jul 2005 10:14	SPOILER
	To Brian: A 18th panel can be added two squares above the 17th panel... Anyway, it seems that the possibility to go beyond 15 seems to lie in the fact that some of the panels are too close to each other, like the relation of the 3rd and 4th panels. I wonder if it's possible to go beyond 15 if adjacent panels are distant enough. Of course, it's not difficult to show that with n blocks, we can have 2^^n - 1 panels.

3315	Dimensional Trap 17	noname (559)	Sat 02 Jul 2005 10:09	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 213 moves (old: 999999).

743	Dimensional Trap 17	bpotetz (144)	Fri 25 Mar 2005 15:23
	Can anyone get farther than 17?