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"We are the mods 12e3b" by m,D,K,N,d,n,J

added 14 Apr 2013 21:32

Solved 3/3

Cooked 0/3

Difficulty 9.00

Style 9.00

Rigidity 4.00

Shortest Solution
Name Speedrun

Length 1460 moves

By Jim

On 17 Apr 2013 01:44

Comments (turn spoilers off)

17005 We are the mods 12e3b Dave (2400) Wed 17 Apr 2013 07:15

I'm wondering how far we can go doing it the old school way without bots or bombs: 'No mod cons'.
Annoyingly, I can't look at your solution now, I'm on a different computer, but redundancy did seem a possibility from what I saw of Jim's. Will have a look in the morning. Either way, I'm calling it quits.

17004 We are the mods 12e3b mark (2878) Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:23 SPOILER

Added solution "The long way":
Why do i do every tough level the hard way,this was a crazy solution thanks for showing yours Jim here's mine.

17003 We are the mods 12e3b mark (2878) Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:14

Yes Jims solution is same as mine in around about way . Im sure adding original and speedrun you possibly end up with a spare piece.
But i also vote calling quits,this level has been fantastic fun.
If you want to start again changing the start and finish position should create a new puzzle.
Have no clue about facebook, never even spoke one word on the internet until this game.

17002 We are the mods 12e3b Dave (2400) Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:08

Mark, it's human nature to want to make harder each time, and I'm as guilty as anybody else. But the concept has been proven now, so next time...

17001 We are the mods 12e3b Dave (2400) Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:01

Cheers Jim, and nice solution.
We currently have 4 levels from this thread left in triage, all considered, I think that is a sensible amount given the combined effort that has been put in.
Not sure about the other thread. It's tempting to go back to wowei's mod and take all the other stuff out, but, personally, I feel like a clean slate.
Any ideas on the rules?

17000 We are the mods 12e3b Jim (2369) Wed 17 Apr 2013 01:44 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 1460 moves (old: 2376).
A slightly easier way, I loved this mod and vote for it to be the ultimate version. I'm not a FB person, so for me I prefer all comments to stay here, it is so easy and covenient.

16998 We are the mods 12e3b Dave (2400) Wed 17 Apr 2013 00:32

Just checked, it's had one comment in 3 years! Might as well do something useful with it...

16997 We are the mods 12e3b Dave (2400) Wed 17 Apr 2013 00:14

That is a very good point. I think this discussion needs to carry on elsewhere otherwise we will clog up feedback and level comments, as well as the graveyard. Escape facebook page seems to be working...

16996 We are the mods 12e3b mark (2878) Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:05

Yes a new template would be good,i have been thinking about it quite a bit.
Your right about the other threads they more levels on ther own.
N7DOT'S starter does not leave much space to do anything with .
Why i think we are the mods got stuck in a pattern early is no one was adding tiles for creative reasons, just trying to make it harder evry time.
If a new template is started we have to add style as well as difficulty when modding.
Perhaps the first 3 or 4 mods should add to the background, then start on the puzzle aspect.

16995 We are the mods 12e3b Dave (2400) Tue 16 Apr 2013 19:43

Hi Mark,
I suppose it could be made even harder, but I'm not sure it would add any value.
I haven't optimised the solution at all, I just uploaded as soon as I cracked it, so I expect it could be shortened considerably. Even so, I think this has to be the limit, any longer and we lose the fun factor.
I reckon we give it a couple of days for the dust to settle and then see if anybody else wants to set a new template (N7DOT's one already has a predetermined style). It would be nice if could generate an entirely different type of puzzle.
What do you think?

16994 We are the mods 12e3b mark (2878) Tue 16 Apr 2013 19:10 SPOILER

Done it thanks,but you make look so easy in your solution.
Just over 3600 moves for me,I still dont trust myself with double bots.
Made positioning of corner bot very awkward.

16982 We are the mods 12e3b Dave (2400) Sun 14 Apr 2013 21:32

'We are the mods 12e3b' uploaded by Dave.

Comments (turn spoilers off)

17005	We are the mods 12e3b	Dave (2400)	Wed 17 Apr 2013 07:15
	I'm wondering how far we can go doing it the old school way without bots or bombs: 'No mod cons'. Annoyingly, I can't look at your solution now, I'm on a different computer, but redundancy did seem a possibility from what I saw of Jim's. Will have a look in the morning. Either way, I'm calling it quits.

17004	We are the mods 12e3b	mark (2878)	Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:23	SPOILER
	Added solution "The long way": Why do i do every tough level the hard way,this was a crazy solution thanks for showing yours Jim here's mine.

17003	We are the mods 12e3b	mark (2878)	Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:14
	Yes Jims solution is same as mine in around about way . Im sure adding original and speedrun you possibly end up with a spare piece. But i also vote calling quits,this level has been fantastic fun. If you want to start again changing the start and finish position should create a new puzzle. Have no clue about facebook, never even spoke one word on the internet until this game.

17002	We are the mods 12e3b	Dave (2400)	Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:08
	Mark, it's human nature to want to make harder each time, and I'm as guilty as anybody else. But the concept has been proven now, so next time...

17001	We are the mods 12e3b	Dave (2400)	Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:01
	Cheers Jim, and nice solution. We currently have 4 levels from this thread left in triage, all considered, I think that is a sensible amount given the combined effort that has been put in. Not sure about the other thread. It's tempting to go back to wowei's mod and take all the other stuff out, but, personally, I feel like a clean slate. Any ideas on the rules?

17000	We are the mods 12e3b	Jim (2369)	Wed 17 Apr 2013 01:44	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 1460 moves (old: 2376). A slightly easier way, I loved this mod and vote for it to be the ultimate version. I'm not a FB person, so for me I prefer all comments to stay here, it is so easy and covenient.

16998	We are the mods 12e3b	Dave (2400)	Wed 17 Apr 2013 00:32
	Just checked, it's had one comment in 3 years! Might as well do something useful with it...

16997	We are the mods 12e3b	Dave (2400)	Wed 17 Apr 2013 00:14
	That is a very good point. I think this discussion needs to carry on elsewhere otherwise we will clog up feedback and level comments, as well as the graveyard. Escape facebook page seems to be working...

16996	We are the mods 12e3b	mark (2878)	Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:05
	Yes a new template would be good,i have been thinking about it quite a bit. Your right about the other threads they more levels on ther own. N7DOT'S starter does not leave much space to do anything with . Why i think we are the mods got stuck in a pattern early is no one was adding tiles for creative reasons, just trying to make it harder evry time. If a new template is started we have to add style as well as difficulty when modding. Perhaps the first 3 or 4 mods should add to the background, then start on the puzzle aspect.

16995	We are the mods 12e3b	Dave (2400)	Tue 16 Apr 2013 19:43
	Hi Mark, I suppose it could be made even harder, but I'm not sure it would add any value. I haven't optimised the solution at all, I just uploaded as soon as I cracked it, so I expect it could be shortened considerably. Even so, I think this has to be the limit, any longer and we lose the fun factor. I reckon we give it a couple of days for the dust to settle and then see if anybody else wants to set a new template (N7DOT's one already has a predetermined style). It would be nice if could generate an entirely different type of puzzle. What do you think?

16994	We are the mods 12e3b	mark (2878)	Tue 16 Apr 2013 19:10	SPOILER
	Done it thanks,but you make look so easy in your solution. Just over 3600 moves for me,I still dont trust myself with double bots. Made positioning of corner bot very awkward.

16982	We are the mods 12e3b	Dave (2400)	Sun 14 Apr 2013 21:32
	'We are the mods 12e3b' uploaded by Dave.