Escape Level : "Jungle Fever" by Max

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"Jungle Fever" by Max

added 25 Aug 2004 18:12

Solved 13/14

Cooked 0/14

Difficulty 7.21

Style 7.85

Rigidity 7.28

Shortest Solution
Name Speed Record

Length 201 moves

By Dave

On 23 Jan 2011 15:46

Comments (turn spoilers off)

15231 Jungle Fever Dave (2400) Sun 23 Jan 2011 15:46 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 201 moves (old: 206).

11033 Jungle Fever Tom 7 (1) Thu 31 Jul 2008 00:14

I'm jealous!

11032 Jungle Fever John Lewis (411) Wed 30 Jul 2008 23:46

Finally cracked this one!

5819 Jungle Fever mjn (118) Sun 09 Apr 2006 02:51

Yeah, man, this is definitely a tricky one. I don't want to spoil it for you, but here's a strategy I've found helpful on many levels, including this one:

Try to rigorously prove things impossible (on paper, even, if necessary). Like, if you're thinking, "I don't think X can do Y", don't trust your judgement--try to prove outright that X can't do Y. Sometimes it can't, and then you can think clearer because there's one less thing to worry about; or sometimes it can, and finding a hole in your proof will lead you straight to the solution.

5816 Jungle Fever mm (690) Sat 08 Apr 2006 21:17 SPOILER

Hi John! How is your jungle fever, is it getting a little better?

I must admit: I had not solved this level until today. Your text made me laugh, because it describes this special kind of "Escape-frustration" so very well! I had read what you'd written without understanding one single word... So I had to "open" the level, and believe it or not, within 5 minutes, I just walked out of the jungle - with an almost speedrun of 211 moves... It's too hard to be faster than noname, he's definatly the best speedrunner ever! (-:

So in fact, I was laughing and not thinking, and this made me find the way out of the jungle. Just try to stop catching yourself within your own kind of thinking! Think different! You should know that.

The most obvious way might be a trap.

Sorry Max. But I guess my hints are more or less ok? Are they?

5811 Jungle Fever mm (690) Sat 08 Apr 2006 15:27 SPOILER

Hi John! This level is evil, I totally agree, but still I think it's one of the best levels ever! (-:

SPOILER:

As you already know, neither (1) nor (2) could help you to find a way out of this jungle (i.e. hell) - you seem to be caught in a vicious circle. My advice to get out of it: try to restart at the very beginning! Good luck!

5804 Jungle Fever John Lewis (411) Fri 07 Apr 2006 19:14 SPOILER

This. Is. Evil.

I'm gonna have to ask for some help on this level, because I have burned my brain out trying to find a solution. I have found two methods that have gotten me pretty far:

(1) Moving the gray sphere down and then left (and preferably not using the trap located to the right of the sphere's original location) to the niche. This allows the green sphere to get to the bottom. It appears that there is no way for the blue sphere to leave the bottom until the green sphere is on the green panel, unless the blue sphere is moved up, and either the gray or red sphere is pushed to the spot above the green panel and then pushed down on the green panel. Then I can push the blue sphere left, etc. However, this method seems to waste valuable traps. Or maybe I'm just not seeing something.

So anyway, back to possible solution #1. Once the green sphere reaches the bottom, I can move it to the space on the left, run to the red sphere, push it left and then up to the top area. (Along the way, I push the blue sphere one space up.) Then I can manuever the green sphere right and down to the green panel.

Now comes the hard part: The gray and red spheres are at the top. The ideal positions for them would be for the red sphere to be placed at the very top left (to allow the blue sphere to land on the blue panel) and the grey sphere to be moved down to the bottom left so that the blue sphere can be moved up. However, this uses up way too many traps. The red sphere has to be moved to the right and down, then the grey sphere must be moved to the right so both are adjacent to each other. At this point, I walk on the traps below the spheres and push both of them up. Then, I step on the trap to the right of the spheres. I push both of them left. They are together at the top left corner (gray on left, red on right). So now all I have to do is push the gray down and move the red left, right? If only it were that easy. At this point, the blue sphere could be moved up via the positioning of the gray, but there is no way for me to push the red sphere all the way to the red panel. I would have to move it right, down, and then right again, and I don't have enough traps. So solution #1 doesn't seem to work...unless there is just some kind of special combination of trap-stepping I just haven't seen yet.

(2) In this solution, I move the gray sphere down before touching the green. Unfortunately, I have to step on the trap to the right of the gray to do this. When the gray is nestled at the bottom left (where it will be permenantly), I can move the red sphere to the left and then up. Now the red sphere is at the top, and the green sphere still hasn't been moved. The most trap-efficient (hey, that sounds pretty cool! :)) way to get the green sphere to the bottom is to move the red to the right (where the gray originally started), move the green all the way left, and then move the red down one space. Then I can manuever the red and green spheres in a series of pushes similar to the end of solution #1, where both spheres eventually end up at the top left (green on left, red on right). Then the green can be pushed down, red can be pushed left, blue can be pushed up, green pushed right and then down, and then finally, the blue can be pushed to the left and then up on the blue panel. Unfortunately, just like the last solution, there is no way for the red to be manuevered to the red panel. I think it's possible to get it as far as being pushed right (where the gray sphere originally was, but the traps above would have already been used by then. :(

So...I can't think of anything else. Somebody please help. This is driving me mad!

3401 Jungle Fever noname (559) Sat 09 Jul 2005 12:18 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 206 moves (old: 219).

876 Jungle Fever Max (61) Wed 30 Mar 2005 09:44 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 219 moves (old: 999999).

336 Jungle Fever Tom 7 (1) Fri 18 Feb 2005 19:55

Still remains nightmarishly difficult for me.

110 Jungle Fever Max (61) Mon 25 Oct 2004 17:49

Now you have the fever.

107 Jungle Fever Tom 7 (1) Fri 22 Oct 2004 19:36

I still can't beat this one.

89 Jungle Fever Tom 7 (1) Wed 08 Sep 2004 17:09

This level is really hard! I haven't gotten it yet...

Comments (turn spoilers off)

15231	Jungle Fever	Dave (2400)	Sun 23 Jan 2011 15:46	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 201 moves (old: 206).

11033	Jungle Fever	Tom 7 (1)	Thu 31 Jul 2008 00:14
	I'm jealous!

11032	Jungle Fever	John Lewis (411)	Wed 30 Jul 2008 23:46
	Finally cracked this one!

5819	Jungle Fever	mjn (118)	Sun 09 Apr 2006 02:51
	Yeah, man, this is definitely a tricky one. I don't want to spoil it for you, but here's a strategy I've found helpful on many levels, including this one: Try to rigorously prove things impossible (on paper, even, if necessary). Like, if you're thinking, "I don't think X can do Y", don't trust your judgement--try to prove outright that X can't do Y. Sometimes it can't, and then you can think clearer because there's one less thing to worry about; or sometimes it can, and finding a hole in your proof will lead you straight to the solution.

5816	Jungle Fever	mm (690)	Sat 08 Apr 2006 21:17	SPOILER
	Hi John! How is your jungle fever, is it getting a little better? I must admit: I had not solved this level until today. Your text made me laugh, because it describes this special kind of "Escape-frustration" so very well! I had read what you'd written without understanding one single word... So I had to "open" the level, and believe it or not, within 5 minutes, I just walked out of the jungle - with an almost speedrun of 211 moves... It's too hard to be faster than noname, he's definatly the best speedrunner ever! (-: So in fact, I was laughing and not thinking, and this made me find the way out of the jungle. Just try to stop catching yourself within your own kind of thinking! Think different! You should know that. The most obvious way might be a trap. Sorry Max. But I guess my hints are more or less ok? Are they?

5811	Jungle Fever	mm (690)	Sat 08 Apr 2006 15:27	SPOILER
	Hi John! This level is evil, I totally agree, but still I think it's one of the best levels ever! (-: SPOILER: As you already know, neither (1) nor (2) could help you to find a way out of this jungle (i.e. hell) - you seem to be caught in a vicious circle. My advice to get out of it: try to restart at the very beginning! Good luck!

5804	Jungle Fever	John Lewis (411)	Fri 07 Apr 2006 19:14	SPOILER
	This. Is. Evil. I'm gonna have to ask for some help on this level, because I have burned my brain out trying to find a solution. I have found two methods that have gotten me pretty far: (1) Moving the gray sphere down and then left (and preferably not using the trap located to the right of the sphere's original location) to the niche. This allows the green sphere to get to the bottom. It appears that there is no way for the blue sphere to leave the bottom until the green sphere is on the green panel, unless the blue sphere is moved up, and either the gray or red sphere is pushed to the spot above the green panel and then pushed down on the green panel. Then I can push the blue sphere left, etc. However, this method seems to waste valuable traps. Or maybe I'm just not seeing something. So anyway, back to possible solution #1. Once the green sphere reaches the bottom, I can move it to the space on the left, run to the red sphere, push it left and then up to the top area. (Along the way, I push the blue sphere one space up.) Then I can manuever the green sphere right and down to the green panel. Now comes the hard part: The gray and red spheres are at the top. The ideal positions for them would be for the red sphere to be placed at the very top left (to allow the blue sphere to land on the blue panel) and the grey sphere to be moved down to the bottom left so that the blue sphere can be moved up. However, this uses up way too many traps. The red sphere has to be moved to the right and down, then the grey sphere must be moved to the right so both are adjacent to each other. At this point, I walk on the traps below the spheres and push both of them up. Then, I step on the trap to the right of the spheres. I push both of them left. They are together at the top left corner (gray on left, red on right). So now all I have to do is push the gray down and move the red left, right? If only it were that easy. At this point, the blue sphere could be moved up via the positioning of the gray, but there is no way for me to push the red sphere all the way to the red panel. I would have to move it right, down, and then right again, and I don't have enough traps. So solution #1 doesn't seem to work...unless there is just some kind of special combination of trap-stepping I just haven't seen yet. (2) In this solution, I move the gray sphere down before touching the green. Unfortunately, I have to step on the trap to the right of the gray to do this. When the gray is nestled at the bottom left (where it will be permenantly), I can move the red sphere to the left and then up. Now the red sphere is at the top, and the green sphere still hasn't been moved. The most trap-efficient (hey, that sounds pretty cool! :)) way to get the green sphere to the bottom is to move the red to the right (where the gray originally started), move the green all the way left, and then move the red down one space. Then I can manuever the red and green spheres in a series of pushes similar to the end of solution #1, where both spheres eventually end up at the top left (green on left, red on right). Then the green can be pushed down, red can be pushed left, blue can be pushed up, green pushed right and then down, and then finally, the blue can be pushed to the left and then up on the blue panel. Unfortunately, just like the last solution, there is no way for the red to be manuevered to the red panel. I think it's possible to get it as far as being pushed right (where the gray sphere originally was, but the traps above would have already been used by then. :( So...I can't think of anything else. Somebody please help. This is driving me mad!

3401	Jungle Fever	noname (559)	Sat 09 Jul 2005 12:18	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 206 moves (old: 219).

876	Jungle Fever	Max (61)	Wed 30 Mar 2005 09:44	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 219 moves (old: 999999).

336	Jungle Fever	Tom 7 (1)	Fri 18 Feb 2005 19:55
	Still remains nightmarishly difficult for me.

110	Jungle Fever	Max (61)	Mon 25 Oct 2004 17:49
	Now you have the fever.

107	Jungle Fever	Tom 7 (1)	Fri 22 Oct 2004 19:36
	I still can't beat this one.

89	Jungle Fever	Tom 7 (1)	Wed 08 Sep 2004 17:09
	This level is really hard! I haven't gotten it yet...