Escape Level : "Knightmare" by John Lewis (adapted)

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"Knightmare" by John Lewis (adapted)

added 12 Apr 2006 21:19

Solved 51/51

Cooked 0/51

Difficulty 1.96

Style 3.23

Rigidity 4.58

Shortest Solution
Name Speedrun

Length 152 moves

By Eric119

On 14 Apr 2006 00:17

Comments (turn spoilers off)

5848 Knightmare Eric119 (921) Fri 14 Apr 2006 00:17 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 152 moves (old: 158).

5844 Knightmare Tom 7 (1) Thu 13 Apr 2006 16:59 SPOILER

Huh. It looks like there's something more complicated going on here than I needed to solve it, even without guessing. I was just pattern matching on three panels in a row with a heart framer next to them and then a red floor... and then taking the center one.

Oh, nevermind, I see what the rule is, and see what it has to do with the title now. ;)

By the way--we've seen before that it's possible to work around 'undo' by making the negative consequences by choosing the wrong action affect you much later on than instant death. I'd like to see some more clever ways of forcing the player to figure out the rule instead of guessing for levels like this.

5837 Knightmare John Lewis (954) Thu 13 Apr 2006 00:35

You're right...

I just wanted to upload it because I thought the concept was pretty cool :) (and it was a "guessing" level that actually had logic behind it...)

5836 Knightmare Doom (371) Thu 13 Apr 2006 00:31

I think that this worked better in CC. There's no unlimited undo, so you're forced to think how the level works (unless you use trial and error a lot). It's too easy to cheat in Escape.

5835 Knightmare Eric119 (921) Wed 12 Apr 2006 23:18 SPOILER

Added speedrun: 158 moves (old: 170).

5834 Knightmare John Lewis (954) Wed 12 Apr 2006 21:19

'Knightmare' uploaded by John Lewis:
Here we go - I think this looks a lot better...

Comments (turn spoilers off)

5848	Knightmare	Eric119 (921)	Fri 14 Apr 2006 00:17	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 152 moves (old: 158).

5844	Knightmare	Tom 7 (1)	Thu 13 Apr 2006 16:59	SPOILER
	Huh. It looks like there's something more complicated going on here than I needed to solve it, even without guessing. I was just pattern matching on three panels in a row with a heart framer next to them and then a red floor... and then taking the center one. Oh, nevermind, I see what the rule is, and see what it has to do with the title now. ;) By the way--we've seen before that it's possible to work around 'undo' by making the negative consequences by choosing the wrong action affect you much later on than instant death. I'd like to see some more clever ways of forcing the player to figure out the rule instead of guessing for levels like this.

5837	Knightmare	John Lewis (954)	Thu 13 Apr 2006 00:35
	You're right... I just wanted to upload it because I thought the concept was pretty cool :) (and it was a "guessing" level that actually had logic behind it...)

5836	Knightmare	Doom (371)	Thu 13 Apr 2006 00:31
	I think that this worked better in CC. There's no unlimited undo, so you're forced to think how the level works (unless you use trial and error a lot). It's too easy to cheat in Escape.

5835	Knightmare	Eric119 (921)	Wed 12 Apr 2006 23:18	SPOILER
	Added speedrun: 158 moves (old: 170).

5834	Knightmare	John Lewis (954)	Wed 12 Apr 2006 21:19
	'Knightmare' uploaded by John Lewis: Here we go - I think this looks a lot better...